1 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,400 Amen. 2 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:30,030 He is with God. 3 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,900 The throne of the Holy See is vacant. 4 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,020 -Aldo. -Hmm? 5 00:04:57,190 --> 00:05:01,230 Hey. Do you think that anybody would mind if I took that? 6 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:02,860 - As a keepsake. - Of course. Take it. 7 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:04,800 He would have wanted you to have it. 8 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,130 Because we used to play quite often in the evenings. 9 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:11,540 He said it helped him to relax. 10 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:13,440 - And who won? - Oh, he did. 11 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,070 He was always eight moves ahead. 12 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:18,370 Mm. 13 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:20,580 Aldo, I'm sorry. 14 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:22,480 Mm. 15 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,550 What happened? 16 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:25,980 Do you know? 17 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:28,490 No. They say a heart attack, but... 18 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:30,720 There had been warnings. 19 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,430 Oh, I hadn't heard that. 20 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:35,470 Yeah. He didn't want anyone to know. 21 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:38,800 He was afraid that if word got out that they would start 22 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,100 circulating rumors that he was going to resign. 23 00:05:43,770 --> 00:05:45,340 The Curia. 24 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,140 Yes. 25 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,040 Okay. 26 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:54,550 Janusz. 27 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,620 I know this is hard for you, 28 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:06,190 but we will have to prepare a-a detailed statement. 29 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:10,530 Who discovered the Holy Father's body? 30 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,700 I did, Your Eminence. 31 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,800 And then what did you do? 32 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:21,010 I called the Holy Father's doctor. 33 00:06:21,010 --> 00:06:22,280 Mm-hmm. 34 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:25,180 - But it was too late. - Mm. 35 00:06:25,180 --> 00:06:28,150 And what time was this? 36 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:31,890 At around 11:30, Eminence. 37 00:06:33,150 --> 00:06:35,820 We would have called you earlier, but... 38 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,390 Thomas, I'm so sorry. 39 00:06:41,390 --> 00:06:43,400 I know His Holiness had 40 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,700 no colleagues closer than you and Aldo, 41 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:49,570 but I asked Janusz to hold off calling you. 42 00:06:49,570 --> 00:06:52,900 I wanted to ascertain all the facts. 43 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:55,550 You know how rumor spreads. 44 00:06:55,550 --> 00:07:01,480 I-I've prepared a time line of His Holiness's last day. 45 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,820 And these are the Holy Father's most recent medical records. 46 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:08,420 And who was the last to have 47 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:09,920 a scheduled meeting with him? 48 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,660 I believe that may have been me. 49 00:07:11,660 --> 00:07:13,720 Father Wozniak, I was the last one? 50 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 You were, Eminence Tremblay. 51 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,030 Put in all the meetings he had that day. 52 00:07:19,030 --> 00:07:22,670 It will show how hard he was working right to the very end. 53 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:25,440 Well, it might look like 54 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,380 we were placing a huge burden on a sick man. 55 00:07:29,380 --> 00:07:31,580 The papacy is a huge burden. 56 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:33,720 Especially for an older man. 57 00:07:36,750 --> 00:07:38,510 Mm. 58 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:42,260 Well, Dean, it seems the responsibility for the conclave 59 00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:43,830 falls upon you. 60 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,690 Seal the room. 61 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:44,540 Security say they'd like to test the electronic jammers 62 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:45,810 one last time, Your Eminence. 63 00:09:45,810 --> 00:09:47,180 Well, then they'd better be quick. 64 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:49,550 I mean, is this really necessary, Willi? 65 00:09:49,550 --> 00:09:51,010 Apparently so. 66 00:09:51,020 --> 00:09:52,820 They say eavesdroppers can use lasers 67 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:54,350 to read the vibrations on the glass. 68 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:55,920 Really? Well, let's hope none of our brothers 69 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,560 suffer from claustrophobia. 70 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:59,660 And who knows how long we're going to be in here? 71 00:09:59,660 --> 00:10:02,230 Can you reassure me that we will be finished on time? 72 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:04,160 They will work through the night if they have to. 73 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,700 It will be fine, Your Eminence. It always is. 74 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:10,530 - Italy, you know. - I'm sorry to fuss. 75 00:10:10,530 --> 00:10:13,740 Well, Eminence, I'd say this is a pretty fair vision of hell. 76 00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:15,500 Well, don't be blasphemous, Ray. 77 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:17,710 Hell arrives tomorrow when we bring in the cardinals. 78 00:10:19,170 --> 00:10:22,280 Now, how do I pronounce this? 79 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Kahl-koh, Your Eminence. He's Indian. 80 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,790 Oh, Kahl-koh. Thank you. 81 00:10:27,930 --> 00:10:33,220 Archbishop Wozniak has asked if he might have a word, Eminence. 82 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:34,730 Well, I don't think that's possible. 83 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:36,130 The cardinals will be arriving in an hour. 84 00:10:36,130 --> 00:10:38,470 - What's it about? - Uh, he didn't say. 85 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:40,060 I-I wouldn't have brought it up. 86 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:43,300 It's just, he seemed so upset. 87 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,300 Ray, we're going to be sequestered from 6:00. 88 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:46,740 He should've come to me earlier. 89 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:49,480 Yes, Your Eminence. I'll let him know. 90 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,140 No, Ray, tell him that I will see him 91 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:53,920 after I've met the cardinals. 92 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,580 The poor fellow will be worrying about his future. 93 00:12:51,930 --> 00:12:53,770 So how many is that, Willi? 94 00:12:53,770 --> 00:12:56,230 103, Eminence Lawrence. 95 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:58,200 Well, I wonder where Tedesco has got to. 96 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,780 Perhaps he's not coming. 97 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,240 Well, that'd be too much to hope for. 98 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,580 We could wait inside if you prefer. 99 00:13:05,580 --> 00:13:06,950 No, let's stay out here 100 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:08,380 and get some fresh air while we can. 101 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:09,650 Ah. 102 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:15,360 Father Bellini. 103 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Aldo. 104 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,130 - Am I the last? - Not quite. How are you? 105 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:23,360 Oh, well, you know, fairly dreadful. 106 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,870 - Have you seen the papers? - Mm-hmm. 107 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:26,460 Apparently, it's already decided it's to be me. 108 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:28,430 And I happen to agree with them. 109 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:30,630 What if I don't want it? 110 00:13:30,630 --> 00:13:32,970 No sane man would want the papacy. 111 00:13:32,970 --> 00:13:35,980 Some of our colleagues seem to want it. 112 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:39,050 What if I know in my heart that I am not worthy? 113 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:41,050 - You are more worthy than any of us. - I'm not. 114 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:43,290 Well, then tell your supporters not to vote for you, 115 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:44,950 to pass the chalice. 116 00:13:44,950 --> 00:13:46,750 And let it go to him? 117 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,150 I could never live with myself. 118 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:52,830 Eminence Tedesco. 119 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:55,710 Dean Lawrence! 120 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:57,630 How are you? 121 00:13:57,630 --> 00:13:58,960 I'm well, Goffredo. 122 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,010 Ah. Sorry, my train was delayed from Venice. 123 00:14:02,090 --> 00:14:03,800 - We've missed you. - Yes. 124 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,890 No doubt. 125 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:06,640 But don't worry. 126 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,980 My friends have kept me well-informed. 127 00:14:08,970 --> 00:14:09,980 Are you well? 128 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:11,680 Mah. 129 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,120 No one is ever well at our age, no? 130 00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:14,400 True. 131 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:16,250 And you? 132 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:19,250 Huh? How do you feel with your new-- huh?-- 133 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:21,720 responsabilita? 134 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:25,230 Everything under control? 135 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:26,530 Yes, I believe so. 136 00:14:26,530 --> 00:14:27,620 Eminence Tedesco, may I? 137 00:14:27,730 --> 00:14:28,790 No! 138 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:30,300 See you later. 139 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:32,500 You're welcome. See you later, Eminence. 140 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,340 Dear Lord. 141 00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:42,510 That's enormous. 142 00:14:42,510 --> 00:14:44,640 Apparently, Pope John the 23rd 143 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,010 was too fat to fit into the biggest cassock, 144 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:48,550 so they had to split the seam at the back 145 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:50,190 for him to get into it. 146 00:14:56,490 --> 00:14:58,890 You look tired. 147 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:01,060 Well, all this is 148 00:15:01,060 --> 00:15:03,230 a duty I never thought I'd have to perform. 149 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:06,270 I thought he would outlive all of us. 150 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:10,170 We didn't part well. 151 00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:17,710 I asked for his permission to resign as dean. 152 00:15:18,850 --> 00:15:20,880 Join an order. 153 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,490 What did he say? 154 00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:24,410 He refused my resignation. 155 00:15:24,410 --> 00:15:26,410 Said some were chosen to be shepherds 156 00:15:26,410 --> 00:15:29,590 and some to manage the farm. 157 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:32,130 Apparently, I am a manager. 158 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,630 He told me about your crisis of faith. 159 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:44,100 But you should know that he had his own doubts towards the end. 160 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:47,000 Well, the pope had doubts about God? 161 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 No. 162 00:15:49,010 --> 00:15:51,050 Never about God. 163 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:53,640 What he had lost faith in was the Church. 164 00:15:54,610 --> 00:15:57,850 Father Wozniak? 165 00:15:57,860 --> 00:15:59,690 In the name of the Father, the Son 166 00:15:59,690 --> 00:16:01,350 and the Holy Ghost. 167 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,880 - My last confession was four weeks ago. - Janusz. 168 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,450 Janusz, I haven't got time to hear your confession. 169 00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:07,560 There's still so much to do. 170 00:16:08,630 --> 00:16:10,660 Have you been drinking? 171 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:14,500 What's troubling you? Tell me. 172 00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:17,730 I should have come to you before. 173 00:16:18,940 --> 00:16:20,710 But I promised not to say anything. 174 00:16:20,710 --> 00:16:23,870 - Promised who? - Cardinal Tremblay. 175 00:16:23,870 --> 00:16:25,820 Janusz, the doors close soon and you'll have to leave. 176 00:16:25,820 --> 00:16:27,540 Now, if you promised Cardinal Tremblay, 177 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:29,050 then perhaps it isn't right that you're... 178 00:16:29,050 --> 00:16:31,040 The day the pope died, 179 00:16:31,050 --> 00:16:33,750 the last person to have an official appointment with him 180 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,290 was Cardinal Tremblay. 181 00:16:35,290 --> 00:16:37,290 Yes, I know. It's on the official time line. 182 00:16:37,290 --> 00:16:40,030 At that meeting, the Holy Father dismissed him. 183 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,120 What? 184 00:16:43,130 --> 00:16:44,860 He sacked him. 185 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:49,300 Why? 186 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:51,210 For gross misconduct. 187 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:55,340 And you tell me this now? 188 00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:57,010 We're about to be sequestered, Janusz. 189 00:16:57,010 --> 00:17:00,280 Forgive me, but it wasn't until the last few days 190 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,910 when I started to hear the rumors. 191 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:03,480 What rumors? 192 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,290 He may be elected pope. 193 00:17:05,290 --> 00:17:08,320 Oh, and you see it as your duty to prevent that, do you? 194 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,200 I-I no longer know what my duty is. 195 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:27,140 Were you there at this meeting? 196 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:28,800 No, Your Eminence. 197 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,270 The Holy Father told me about it afterwards, 198 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:33,120 when we had supper. 199 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:37,450 Did he tell you why he had dismissed Eminence Tremblay? 200 00:17:37,450 --> 00:17:39,390 No. 201 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:43,590 He said the reasons would become clear soon enough. 202 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,940 Ah. Dean Lawrence. 203 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:09,110 An issue. 204 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:10,810 Oh, dear God. 205 00:19:10,810 --> 00:19:12,250 One of them's died? 206 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:14,220 - I'm sorry? - Have we lost a cardinal? 207 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:17,110 No, Your Eminence. We seem to have acquired one. 208 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,480 I mean it literally. 209 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,390 Another cardinal has just turned up. 210 00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:23,590 Well, then we left someone off the list. 211 00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:26,560 He was never on our list, Eminence. 212 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,660 He says he was created in pectore. 213 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:31,070 Oh, no, then he has to be an imposter, surely. 214 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:32,900 Well, that's what I thought, Eminence. 215 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,340 But Archbishop Mandorff has spoken to him and thinks not. 216 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,470 Well, what's this I'm hearing? 217 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:44,570 His name is Vincent Benitez, Your Eminence. 218 00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:46,680 He's the archbishop of Kabul. 219 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Archbishop of where? 220 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,820 Kabul. 221 00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:51,580 But he is Mexican. 222 00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:53,490 The Holy Father appointed him last year. 223 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:56,660 Last year? So how has this been kept a secret for so long? 224 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:58,660 I thought perhaps you would be aware of his elevation. 225 00:19:58,660 --> 00:20:00,000 No, I'm not. 226 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,850 Ray, ask Eminence Bellini to join us. 227 00:20:01,860 --> 00:20:03,460 Maybe he knows something of this. 228 00:20:03,460 --> 00:20:05,300 - Yes, Your Eminence. - Thank you. 229 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:07,700 He has a letter of appointment from the pope 230 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:10,130 addressed to the Archdiocese of Kabul, 231 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:12,510 which they kept secret at the Holy Father's request. 232 00:20:12,510 --> 00:20:13,810 Mm-hmm. 233 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,780 You don't think he could have forged it? 234 00:20:17,780 --> 00:20:20,080 Uh, where is he now? 235 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,810 A cardinal in Afghanistan? 236 00:20:23,810 --> 00:20:25,520 -Mm. - It's absurd. 237 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,290 How many Catholics are there in Afghanistan? 238 00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:29,020 Uh, he was head of the Catholic mission there 239 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:31,660 until his elevation. 240 00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:34,020 But how can we possibly ensure his safety? 241 00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:36,000 Well, presumably, that's why the Holy Father 242 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,530 wanted it kept a secret. 243 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:40,630 - Well, it won't be in pectore now. - Mm. 244 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:43,370 I don't think we have any choice but to admit him. 245 00:20:43,370 --> 00:20:45,510 Wait, wait. Thomas. 246 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,140 Are we sure that the Holy Father 247 00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:53,210 was entirely competent 248 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,290 when he made this appointment? 249 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,530 I believe this man is legally a cardinal, Aldo, 250 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:07,960 and I... I think he has a right to take part in the election. 251 00:21:34,490 --> 00:21:37,180 Eminences, before we eat, 252 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:40,530 I'd like to introduce, uh, a new member of our order, 253 00:21:40,530 --> 00:21:43,890 whose existence was not known to any of us, 254 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:46,130 uh, until only a few hours ago. 255 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:49,860 This is because our brother was made a cardinal 256 00:21:49,870 --> 00:21:52,800 by the perfectly legitimate procedure 257 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,910 known as creation in pectore. 258 00:21:55,910 --> 00:21:58,280 Now, the reason why it had to be done this way 259 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,810 is known only to God and to the late Holy Father. 260 00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:03,720 But I think we can guess well enough, 261 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,420 as our new brother's ministry is an extremely dangerous one. 262 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:12,620 Welcome to our order, Vincent Benitez, 263 00:22:12,620 --> 00:22:16,290 cardinal archbishop of Kabul. 264 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,680 Eminence, please, would you bless our meal? 265 00:22:35,690 --> 00:22:36,950 Of course. 266 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,590 Bless us, O Lord, and these, your gifts, 267 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:45,960 which we are about to receive from your bounty. 268 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,660 Amen. 269 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:50,450 Bless all those 270 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:54,960 who cannot share this meal with us 271 00:22:55,380 --> 00:22:58,630 and help us, O Lord, as we eat and drink, 272 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,460 to remember the hungry, 273 00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:02,670 the thirsty, 274 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,090 the sick, 275 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:07,010 and the lonely, 276 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:10,100 and the sisters who prepared this food for us. 277 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:12,390 Through Christ Our Lord, 278 00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:14,390 Amen. 279 00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:17,820 Amen. 280 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:19,620 Please come. 281 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:21,190 This is your... 282 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:22,530 Here, come. 283 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:32,750 Dean! 284 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:34,630 Lawrence! 285 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,070 Oh, I have... 286 00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:40,550 - Goffredo. - Tommaso. 287 00:23:42,050 --> 00:23:43,050 Come. 288 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:45,520 Take some wine. 289 00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:48,930 Thank you. 290 00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:52,350 Grazie. 291 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:55,470 You look anxious. 292 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,440 And we haven't even begun yet. 293 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:02,570 Our new brother... 294 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,650 Did I hear correctly, Afghanistan? 295 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:05,860 Yes. 296 00:24:05,860 --> 00:24:09,780 A marvelous testament to the Universal Church, 297 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:10,870 don't you think? 298 00:24:11,370 --> 00:24:13,830 So many men of different cultures, races, 299 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:16,370 bound together by their faith in God. 300 00:24:17,650 --> 00:24:19,720 Hmm? 301 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:22,590 Look around you. 302 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,550 Notice how everyone gravitates to their fellow countrymen. 303 00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:29,090 Italians over here. 304 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Spanish speakers there 305 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,350 - English there. - Yes. 306 00:24:34,020 --> 00:24:35,020 French. 307 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:38,570 Divided by language. 308 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:40,300 Ecco... 309 00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:43,610 When we were boys and the Tridentine Mass 310 00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:45,610 was still the only true liturgy of the world 311 00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:48,910 we would all have been speaking Latin. 312 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:53,280 But then your fellow liberals insisted we get rid of that 313 00:24:53,290 --> 00:24:54,660 "dead" language. 314 00:24:57,410 --> 00:25:00,040 Without Rome, without the tradition of Rome... 315 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:04,000 Things fall apart. 316 00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:07,430 The center cannot hold. 317 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,600 So what, the next Pope must be Italian? 318 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,680 Why not? 319 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,220 We haven't had an Italian Pope for more than forty years. 320 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:17,480 Forty years, Tommaso. 321 00:25:17,980 --> 00:25:19,440 Mm. 322 00:25:21,310 --> 00:25:23,770 Can you seriously imagine the alternative? 323 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:38,960 Excuse me, I must circulate amongst our brothers. 324 00:25:41,170 --> 00:25:43,750 The abyss calls out. 325 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:51,280 It was shrewd of him to stay away from Rome 326 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,210 until today. 327 00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:55,380 One outspoken newspaper interview 328 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:58,280 could have written Tedesco off. 329 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,520 But instead, he will do well tomorrow, I think. 330 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,490 Which means? 331 00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:05,150 I would say... 332 00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:08,200 he's worth 15 votes on the first ballot. 333 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,900 And Bellini? 334 00:26:13,910 --> 00:26:17,140 Why do I feel like a cow being priced by the farmer? 335 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:18,710 First ballot? 336 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,170 Between 20 and 25. 337 00:26:23,170 --> 00:26:27,370 But it is tomorrow night that the real work begins. 338 00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:31,690 Somehow we have to get him a two-thirds majority. 339 00:26:32,890 --> 00:26:35,420 By "real work," you mean what exactly? 340 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:37,080 But, Eminence Bellini, 341 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,820 those who seek the papacy... 342 00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:41,230 I don't seek the papacy. I... 343 00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:55,410 Thank you, Sisters. 344 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,710 Listen, you don't have to do anything. 345 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:04,410 Just leave it to us. 346 00:27:04,410 --> 00:27:07,590 Tell them I stand for a commonsense approach 347 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:11,760 to such issues as gays and divorce. 348 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,020 Tell them I stand for never returning to the days 349 00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:17,560 of the Latin liturgy 350 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,090 or families of ten children because mama and papa 351 00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:21,470 didn't know any better. 352 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:23,640 That was an ugly and repressive time, 353 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,570 and I'm glad that it's over. 354 00:27:25,580 --> 00:27:29,610 Tell them I stand for respecting other faiths, 355 00:27:29,610 --> 00:27:34,070 for tolerating other views within our own Church, 356 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,440 and tell them that I believe 357 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,050 women should play more of a role in the Curia. 358 00:27:39,050 --> 00:27:42,220 Let's, uh... let's not mention women. 359 00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:43,960 Why? 360 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Brother, I have no intention of concealing my views 361 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,230 or pretending to be anything other than I am 362 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:51,790 in order to sway any of our number who are undecided. 363 00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:53,500 So... 364 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,800 if you want to canvass on my behalf, 365 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,500 then make sure that my message is clear. 366 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:03,880 I stand for everything that Tedesco does not. 367 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,380 Okay. If you'll excuse me. 368 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:15,180 All right. 369 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:18,020 Rocco, you talk to the Americans. 370 00:28:18,020 --> 00:28:20,690 Villanueva, I leave the South Americans to you. 371 00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:23,330 Gianmarco, you take the Africans. 372 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:26,130 Aldo doesn't want it. 373 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:28,530 Any of it. 374 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,300 You know that, don't you? 375 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,670 Of course I do. That's why I support him. 376 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,080 The men who are dangerous are the ones who do want it. 377 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,290 I'm enjoying all this mystery, Thomas. 378 00:28:50,290 --> 00:28:54,420 And I suppose you should tell me what you want to talk about. 379 00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:00,400 Your last meeting with the Holy Father. 380 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,460 Oh, what about it? 381 00:29:02,460 --> 00:29:04,670 Well, I've been told it was difficult. 382 00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:09,000 - Was it? - Difficult? No. 383 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,310 Not that I can recall. 384 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:13,310 Well, I'm sorry to have to ask you this, Joe, 385 00:29:13,310 --> 00:29:15,050 but to be specific, I was told 386 00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:17,790 that the Holy Father demanded your resignation. 387 00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:20,420 What? 388 00:29:21,390 --> 00:29:23,660 That's absurd. I... 389 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:25,990 I don't know what-- Wh-Who told you that? 390 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:28,390 - Archbishop Wozniak. - Why would he say such a thing? 391 00:29:28,390 --> 00:29:31,830 So there isn't any truth in the allegation? 392 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:34,970 Oh, God, no, of course not. It's absurd. 393 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:37,700 You don't think that... 394 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:41,240 - No, well, I-I had to ask. - Oh, I understand, but no. 395 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Y-You can ask Monsignor Morales. 396 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:44,880 He was at the meeting. 397 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,910 Well, I would, but at the moment, 398 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:48,740 we happen to be sequestered. 399 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:50,050 Oh. 400 00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:57,060 Can you think of any reason why 401 00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,720 Archbishop Wozniak would circulate such a story? 402 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,860 No, I can't. 403 00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:04,190 I really... D-Do you want a coffee? 404 00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:05,800 No. 405 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,900 I'm shocked. 406 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,970 - He told you this himself? - Yes. 407 00:30:18,170 --> 00:30:19,640 You don't think... 408 00:30:21,010 --> 00:30:22,940 What? 409 00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:24,410 The drinking. 410 00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:26,380 I don't like to bring it up, but we both know 411 00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:30,290 his drinking has been getting much heavier. 412 00:30:30,290 --> 00:30:34,100 And perhaps it's affecting his judgment, h-his mind even. 413 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,630 And... 414 00:30:37,630 --> 00:30:41,560 I know my name has been mentioned as a future pope, 415 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,730 and if the archbishop doesn't approve of that idea, 416 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:46,670 maybe he's... 417 00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:51,110 I don't know. I-I'm just trying to make sense of this. 418 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,280 And the poor man. 419 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,480 He was shattered by the Holy Father's death. 420 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,690 Yes, indeed. 421 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,850 Again, Joe, uh, my apologies. 422 00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:03,590 No, not at all. 423 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:05,650 I completely understand. 424 00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:09,620 Um... 425 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:11,990 What did you discuss with the Holy Father 426 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,670 in that final meeting? 427 00:31:13,670 --> 00:31:16,300 Forgive me, Thomas. 428 00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:18,370 It was a private conversation. 429 00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:20,170 And very precious. 430 00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:22,680 Those were the last words I ever exchanged 431 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,380 with the Holy Father. 432 00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:26,980 Yes, of course. 433 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:30,390 Good night, Joe. 434 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,480 Good night, Thomas. 435 00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,370 -Decano. - Ah. 436 00:31:48,770 --> 00:31:51,070 Oh, we are neighbors, Joshua. 437 00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:53,170 Ah. It appears so. 438 00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:55,640 I thought that I should, uh... 439 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,580 do a little more work on my homily for tomorrow. 440 00:31:58,580 --> 00:32:00,520 Ah, yes, of course. 441 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,250 I look forward to it. 442 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,250 I understand the trick is to offend no one. 443 00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:07,480 You're a manager. 444 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:10,910 Manage. 445 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,470 Decano Lawrence? 446 00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:40,000 - Eminenza. - Tutto bene, grazie. 447 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,730 Dear Brothers in Christ, 448 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,150 at this moment of great uncertainty 449 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:11,240 in the history of the Holy Church, 450 00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:15,950 we must think first of the late Holy Father, 451 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:21,040 whose brilliant pontificate was a gift from God, 452 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:27,090 now we must ask our Lord to send us a new Holy Father 453 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:32,260 through the pastoral solicitude of the cardinal fathers. 454 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:37,930 And we must pray to God for that loving assistance, 455 00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:40,560 and ask Him to guide us 456 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,770 to the right choice. 457 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,680 But you know all that. 458 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:58,710 Let me speak from the heart for a moment. 459 00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:02,380 Saint Paul said, "Be subject to one another 460 00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:05,260 out of reverence for Christ." 461 00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:09,600 To work together, to, uh, to grow together, 462 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,990 we must be tolerant. 463 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:16,170 No one person or-or faction seeking to dominate another. 464 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:19,100 And speaking to the Ephesians, 465 00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:23,070 who were of course a mixture of Jews and gentiles, 466 00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:27,750 Paul reminds us that God's gift to the Church 467 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,420 is its variety. 468 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:33,320 It is this variety, this diversity of people and views, 469 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,620 which gives our Church its strength. 470 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,630 And over the course of many years, 471 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:41,590 in the service of our mother the Church, let me tell you, 472 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,370 there is one sin which I have come to fear above all others. 473 00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:49,310 Certainty. 474 00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,210 Certainty is the great enemy of unity. 475 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,170 Certainty is the deadly enemy of tolerance. 476 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,080 Even Christ was not certain at the end. 477 00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:08,980 My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? 478 00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:14,290 He cried out in his agony at the ninth hour on the cross. 479 00:37:14,290 --> 00:37:16,500 Our faith is a living thing 480 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:20,570 precisely because it walks hand in hand with doubt. 481 00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:26,470 If there was only certainty and no doubt, 482 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:28,340 there would be no mystery. 483 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,910 And therefore no need for faith. 484 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:39,420 Let us pray that God will grant us a pope who doubts. 485 00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:43,050 And let him grant us a pope who sins 486 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:47,690 and asks for forgiveness and who carries on. 487 00:38:47,490 --> 00:38:49,050 Dean Lawrence, 488 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,390 your homily has caused quite the stir. 489 00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:54,760 I don't think anyone expected you to... 490 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,500 What, to say something interesting? 491 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:02,500 - I'll have a transcript made of the recording. - Mm-hmm. 492 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,510 If, uh... if there's nothing else. 493 00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:11,910 - Grazie. Grazie. - Eminence. 494 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:13,520 Yes, um... 495 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:17,350 I, uh, I need you to do something for me. 496 00:39:17,350 --> 00:39:19,150 Monsignor Morales. 497 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:21,820 I'm sure he's still in Rome. 498 00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:24,290 - Could you try and see him? - Today? Well, I... 499 00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:25,960 Use my authority. 500 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,090 I'd like to know what happened in the final meeting 501 00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:31,800 between Cardinal Tremblay and the Holy Father. 502 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,020 What happened? 503 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:34,670 Specifically, did anything occur 504 00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:38,510 that might render Tremblay unfit for the papacy? 505 00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,340 Of course, Your Eminence. 506 00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:46,750 Bless you. 507 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,180 And I, Irumbus Cardinal Nakitanda 508 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:32,680 I promise, I vow and I swear, so God will help me 509 00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:37,940 and these Holy Gospels of God, which I touch with my hand. 510 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,330 Out, everyone. 511 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,410 Cardinal brothers, 512 00:42:19,210 --> 00:42:22,130 we will now proceed to the first ballot. 513 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,510 You will find in front of you your ballot paper. 514 00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:31,430 On the top half is written, I elect as Supreme Pontiff. 515 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:36,310 Please make sure your hand-writing is legible. 516 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:11,340 I call as my witness Christ the Lord who will be my judge 517 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,550 that my vote is given to the one who, before God, 518 00:43:15,550 --> 00:43:18,020 I think should be elected. 519 00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,100 The first vote is cast for Cardinal Tedesco. 520 00:44:03,980 --> 00:44:07,690 The second vote is cast for Cardinal Tedesco. 521 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:11,570 Cardinal Tremblay. 522 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,310 Cardinale Tremblay. 523 00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:21,760 Cardinale Tedesco. 524 00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:25,760 Cardinale Adeyemi. 525 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:30,030 Cardinale Lawrence. 526 00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,530 Cardinale Bellini. 527 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,600 Cardinale Bellini. 528 00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:45,950 Cardinale Villanueva. 529 00:44:48,290 --> 00:44:50,210 Cardinale Tremblay. 530 00:44:51,490 --> 00:44:53,380 Cardinale Adeyemi. 531 00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:58,160 Cardinale Tremblay. 532 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,220 Cardinale Tedesco. 533 00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:03,700 Cardinale Bellini. 534 00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:06,900 Cardinale Adeyemi. 535 00:45:08,670 --> 00:45:11,670 And finally, Cardinal Benitez. 536 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:18,760 The results of the first ballot are... 537 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,510 Cardinal Adeyemi, twenty-one votes. 538 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,810 Cardinal Tedesco, eighteen votes. 539 00:45:28,270 --> 00:45:31,400 Cardinal Bellini, seventeen votes. 540 00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:34,900 Cardinal Tremblay, sixteen votes. 541 00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:38,200 Cardinal Lawrence, five votes. 542 00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:44,370 Other cardinals assigned a single vote, thirty-one votes. 543 00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:59,590 My brother cardinals, 544 00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:02,350 that concludes the first ballot. 545 00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:05,390 No candidate having achieved 546 00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:08,690 the necessary majority of seventy-two votes, 547 00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:12,310 we shall adjourn for the evening, 548 00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:15,530 and resume voting in the morning. 549 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,280 Thank you. 550 00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:53,810 The media have noticed the presence of a cardinal 551 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:55,940 who doesn't appear on the official list, Dean, 552 00:46:55,940 --> 00:46:57,540 Cardinal Benitez, 553 00:46:57,540 --> 00:46:58,970 so I've taken the liberty of putting together 554 00:46:58,970 --> 00:47:00,540 a draft statement. 555 00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:02,410 I've also put together some biographical details 556 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,750 for yourself. 557 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:06,650 Ministries in Veracruz, the Congo, 558 00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:08,480 where he established a hospital 559 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,920 for the female victims of genocidal sexual violence 560 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,130 during the first and second wars. 561 00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:20,170 - Then Baghdad and finally the mission in Kabul. - Right. 562 00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:22,890 There was some question of his resigning on health grounds, 563 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:25,610 but apparently the Holy Father convinced him to continue. 564 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,470 He's certainly served his ministry 565 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:28,800 - in some terrible places. - Yes. 566 00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:30,500 Health grounds? 567 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,240 Uh, look into that, would you, Ray? 568 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,740 It's the kind of thing the press like to get hold of. 569 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:36,750 Of course. 570 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:40,320 And the, um... the other matter, the... 571 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:43,460 Yes. 572 00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:47,120 I spoke to Monsignor Morales. 573 00:47:47,130 --> 00:47:49,520 He was emphatic that he knows of no reason 574 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,900 why Cardinal Tremblay should not be pope. 575 00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:56,360 - Thank you. - However, 576 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,470 will you forgive me if I say 577 00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:02,770 I did not entirely believe the good monsignor? 578 00:48:02,770 --> 00:48:04,610 He was just... 579 00:48:04,610 --> 00:48:08,050 so emphatic. 580 00:48:08,050 --> 00:48:11,890 My Spanish is quite poor, and I may have accidentally 581 00:48:11,890 --> 00:48:14,510 given him the impression that you had seen a document 582 00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:17,120 that contradicts that, and he said 583 00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:21,050 you weren't to worry, that-- and his exact words were... 584 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,130 A report? A report about what? 585 00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:27,540 Withdrawn when? 586 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:30,100 That I couldn't say, Eminence. 587 00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:33,270 Mm. 588 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,880 Third place. 589 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,260 Not what we had hoped. 590 00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:51,890 Your sermon didn't exactly help us, and your five votes. 591 00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:53,580 You have far too little support 592 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:55,230 to emerge as a serious candidate. 593 00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:57,060 Well, my position is an embarrassment to me. 594 00:48:57,060 --> 00:48:58,900 If I find out who my supporters are, 595 00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:01,400 I'll plead with them to vote for someone else. 596 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,530 I'll tell them I'll be voting for Aldo. 597 00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:05,530 All right. 598 00:49:05,530 --> 00:49:08,110 That leaves 31 votes available. 599 00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:10,640 We simply have to pick up most of them. 600 00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:44,810 The Holy Father's turtles. 601 00:49:44,810 --> 00:49:46,480 He was very fond of them. 602 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,610 A gift from Angola. 603 00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:50,310 I thought I was imagining them. 604 00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:52,320 I love them. They're so clever. 605 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,320 Well, here they keep escaping and being run over. 606 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,850 We should go back. The evening curfew. 607 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:05,100 And your health, how are you bearing up? 608 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,760 My health is perfect. Thank you. 609 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,460 I only meant have you recovered from your journey? 610 00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:11,670 - I have indeed. - Good. 611 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:15,400 And in the Sistine, you found someone to vote for? 612 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,640 Yes. I voted for you. 613 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:20,750 Forgive me. Am I not supposed to say? 614 00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:22,820 No, no, it's not that you... 615 00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:25,520 No, I'm honored, but, my dear Vincent-- 616 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,510 May I call you Vincent? 617 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:30,350 I'm not a serious candidate. 618 00:50:30,350 --> 00:50:32,820 My vocation lies in a different... 619 00:50:35,530 --> 00:50:38,590 After the conclave, I hope to resign as dean 620 00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:40,960 and then leave Rome altogether. 621 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,340 Why? 622 00:50:47,470 --> 00:50:50,770 I've been experiencing difficulties. 623 00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:52,050 With your faith? 624 00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:58,090 Prayer. 625 00:51:00,710 --> 00:51:02,520 I only mention it to illustrate 626 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,490 my point that I'm in no way worthy to be pope. 627 00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:08,860 Come. 628 00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:22,000 Aldo. 629 00:51:25,450 --> 00:51:26,840 Aldo? 630 00:51:29,290 --> 00:51:33,220 I-I feel wretched that my-my meager tally of votes 631 00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:35,390 may have come at your expense. 632 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:38,190 Hmm. 633 00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:41,520 I had no idea you were so ambitious. 634 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160 Oh, that's a ridiculous thing to say. 635 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,560 Is it? 636 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:48,870 Is it? 637 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:51,170 I thought we had your support. 638 00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:55,370 If we liberals are not united, Tedesco will become pope. 639 00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:57,270 You have no idea how bad it became, Thomas. 640 00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:58,670 The way he and his circle 641 00:51:58,670 --> 00:52:00,440 attacked the Holy Father towards the end. 642 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,680 The smears, the leaks to the press. 643 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,350 It was savage. 644 00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:08,220 He fought him every single day of his pontificate. 645 00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:09,520 And now that he's dead, 646 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,860 he wants to destroy his life's work. 647 00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:15,230 If Tedesco becomes pope, 648 00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:18,260 he will undo 60 years of progress. 649 00:52:18,260 --> 00:52:20,100 Y-You talk as if you are the only alternative. 650 00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,970 - Well... - But Adeyemi has the wind behind him. 651 00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:24,630 - Adeyemi? Adeyemi? - Mm-hmm. 652 00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:26,410 The man who believes that homosexuals should be 653 00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:29,640 sent to prison in this world and hell in the next? 654 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,310 Adeyemi's not the answer to anything, and you know it. 655 00:52:33,310 --> 00:52:34,710 If you want to defeat Tedesco... 656 00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:36,780 "Defeat"? This is a conclave, Aldo. 657 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:37,880 It's not a war. 658 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,950 It is a war! 659 00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:43,320 And you have to commit to a side! 660 00:52:48,490 --> 00:52:50,660 Save your precious doubts for your prayers. 661 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:54,990 You can't seriously believe 662 00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:57,800 that I have the slightest desire to become pope. 663 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,940 Oh, come on! 664 00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:01,970 Every cardinal has that desire. 665 00:53:01,970 --> 00:53:04,280 Every cardinal, deep down, has already chosen the name 666 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,400 by which he would like his papacy to be known. 667 00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:08,480 Well, I haven't. 668 00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,450 Deny it if you like. 669 00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:14,690 But search your heart, and then tell me it isn't so. 670 00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:20,780 The results of the second ballot are... 671 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,950 Cardinal Adeyemi, thirty-four votes. 672 00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:29,160 Cardinal Tedesco, twenty-five votes. 673 00:55:31,210 --> 00:55:34,000 Cardinal Bellini, eighteen votes. 674 00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:38,880 Cardinal Tremblay, sixteen votes. 675 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,800 Cardinal Lawrence, nine votes. 676 00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:47,930 Cardinal Benitez, two votes. 677 00:55:54,980 --> 00:55:59,900 My brothers, in accordance with the Apostolic Constitution 678 00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:03,660 we proceed immediately to the next vote. 679 00:56:04,030 --> 00:56:05,160 Thank you. 680 00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:16,920 The results of the third ballot are... 681 00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:21,090 Cardinal Adeyemi, fifty-two votes. 682 00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:25,220 Cardinal Tedesco, thirty votes. 683 00:56:26,050 --> 00:56:28,470 Cardinal Tremblay, ten votes. 684 00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:31,060 Cardinal Bellini... 685 00:56:44,570 --> 00:56:45,570 Brothers. 686 00:56:46,110 --> 00:56:47,120 Please. 687 00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:49,490 Thank you. 688 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,830 Cardinal Bellini, nine votes. 689 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,540 Cardinal Lawrence, five votes. 690 00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:02,670 Cardinal Benitez, four votes. 691 00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:23,000 Well, I take it something has happened. 692 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,530 There's been an explosion, Your Eminence, 693 00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:26,000 in the Piazza Barberini. 694 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,570 - A bomb? - It's unclear at the moment. 695 00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:29,930 There are injuries. 696 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:32,210 No talk of fatalities, though. 697 00:57:32,210 --> 00:57:33,510 We must say nothing 698 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:35,170 to the cardinal electors about this, Ray. 699 00:57:35,170 --> 00:57:37,780 We are sequestered, and they must be shielded 700 00:57:37,780 --> 00:57:41,080 from all news that may influence their judgment. 701 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,460 - You understand? - Of course, Your Eminence. 702 00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:56,770 This is exactly what I believe. 703 00:57:56,770 --> 00:57:58,570 What am I supposed to tell them in Milan 704 00:57:58,570 --> 00:58:03,570 when they start to discover our new pope's social views? 705 00:58:03,570 --> 00:58:06,110 Tell your congregation that they should celebrate 706 00:58:06,110 --> 00:58:10,310 the first African pope in the history of the Church. 707 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,050 If Adeyemi was white, 708 00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:16,290 we'd be all condemning him as more reactionary than Tedesco. 709 00:58:16,290 --> 00:58:17,450 Just only because he's not white... 710 00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:19,490 It's too late for all that. 711 00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:21,390 It's too late. 712 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:31,330 What happened? 713 00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:52,080 Oh, good afternoon, sister. 714 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,830 I would like to speak to the nun 715 00:58:53,830 --> 00:58:55,760 - who dropped her tray just now. - She's safe with me. 716 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,620 I'm dealing with the situation, Dean. 717 00:58:57,620 --> 00:59:00,830 I'm sure you are, Sister Agnes, but I must see her myself. 718 00:59:00,830 --> 00:59:02,530 I hardly think a dropped tray 719 00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:04,430 should concern the dean of the College of Cardinals. 720 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,970 Even so, I... 721 00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:08,770 The welfare of the sister is my responsibility. 722 00:59:08,770 --> 00:59:11,170 And this conclave is mine. 723 00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:24,420 Please sit, my child. 724 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,850 My name is Cardinal Lawrence. 725 00:59:29,860 --> 00:59:31,050 How are you feeling? 726 00:59:31,060 --> 00:59:32,500 She's feeling much better. 727 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,330 Could you tell me your name? 728 00:59:34,330 --> 00:59:36,300 Shanumi. Her name is Shanumi. 729 00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:38,230 Please, please do sit down. 730 00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:39,800 I-I really think it would be better 731 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,530 if you let me deal with the situation... 732 00:59:41,530 --> 00:59:44,500 Would you be so good as to leave us now, Sister Agnes? 733 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,930 Sister Shanumi, 734 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:11,870 I want you to understand that, first of all, 735 01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:14,680 you are not in any kind of trouble. 736 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,910 The fact of the matter is that I have a responsibility 737 01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:21,580 before God to ensure that the decisions that we make here 738 01:00:21,580 --> 01:00:24,450 are the right ones. 739 01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:27,910 Now, it's important you tell me anything that is in your heart 740 01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:29,520 or that is troubling you, 741 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,420 insofar as it relates to Cardinal Adeyemi. 742 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,630 Can you do that for me? 743 01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:43,470 Even if I give you my assurance 744 01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:46,100 it will go no further than this room? 745 01:00:59,250 --> 01:01:02,320 Would you like me to hear your confession? 746 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,030 I'll be ready in a moment, Dean. 747 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,170 - Shouldn't we be going? - In a moment. 748 01:01:47,170 --> 01:01:48,800 That sounds ominous. 749 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,710 If this is about the incident downstairs, 750 01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:57,850 I have no desire to talk about it. 751 01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:03,710 I am the victim of a disgraceful plot 752 01:02:03,710 --> 01:02:05,680 to ruin my reputation. 753 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,490 Someone brought that woman here and staged this melodrama. 754 01:02:09,490 --> 01:02:11,150 She'd never left Nigeria before, 755 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,320 and suddenly she's here in the Casa Santa Marta... 756 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,120 Well, with respect, Joshua, how she came here is secondary 757 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,120 to the issue of your relationship with her. 758 01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:21,530 I have no relationship to her! 759 01:02:23,230 --> 01:02:25,070 I hadn't set eyes on her in 30 years 760 01:02:25,070 --> 01:02:28,400 until she turned up outside my room last night! 761 01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:35,280 It was a lapse, Dean. 762 01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:38,250 A lapse. 763 01:02:39,850 --> 01:02:41,920 "Let God grant us a pope who sins 764 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,310 and asks forgiveness and carries on." 765 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,930 - Your words. - And the child? 766 01:02:47,130 --> 01:02:48,690 The child? 767 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,940 The child was raised in a Christian household. 768 01:02:59,940 --> 01:03:02,370 And to this day, he has no idea who his father is, 769 01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:05,040 if indeed it is me. 770 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,540 That is the child. 771 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,350 We were very young. 772 01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:12,080 No, no, no, Joshua. 773 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,360 She was very young. She was 19 years old. 774 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,880 - You were 30. - Thomas. 775 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,390 Thomas. 776 01:03:19,390 --> 01:03:21,560 Listen to me. Please. 777 01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:26,400 I sensed the presence of the Holy Spirit this morning, 778 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,940 I swear it. 779 01:03:29,130 --> 01:03:31,140 I am ready to take this burden. 780 01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,440 D-Does a single... single mistake 30 years ago 781 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,910 disqualify me? 782 01:03:38,910 --> 01:03:41,310 Thomas, please. I was a different man. 783 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,580 Please, I-I beg you, d-do not use this to ruin me. 784 01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:47,920 Joshua, that thought's not worthy of you. 785 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,250 Shanumi will say nothing to protect her son. 786 01:03:51,250 --> 01:03:53,960 And I am bound by the vows of the confessional. 787 01:03:57,220 --> 01:03:58,960 So I still have hope. 788 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,260 No. 789 01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:07,070 There is no hope. 790 01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:09,070 After such a public scene, there will be rumors, 791 01:04:09,070 --> 01:04:11,680 and you know what the Curia is like. 792 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,340 Nothing terrifies our colleagues more than 793 01:04:13,340 --> 01:04:17,450 the thought of yet more sexual scandals. 794 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,860 I am more sorry than I can say. 795 01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:25,890 You will never be pope. 796 01:04:30,290 --> 01:04:32,030 You must begin again. 797 01:04:34,570 --> 01:04:37,140 But you are a good man. 798 01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:41,330 I know you to be a good man, 799 01:04:41,330 --> 01:04:43,800 and you will find a way to atone. 800 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,330 Will you pray with me? 801 01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:11,570 Yes, of course. 802 01:06:28,910 --> 01:06:32,530 The results of the fifth ballot are... 803 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,750 Cardinal Tremblay, forty votes. 804 01:06:38,290 --> 01:06:41,080 Cardinal Tedesco, thirty-four votes. 805 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,550 Cardinal Bellini, thirteen votes. 806 01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,180 Cardinal Lawrence, eleven votes. 807 01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:54,890 Cardinal Adeyemi, nine votes. 808 01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:59,020 Cardinal Benitez, six votes. 809 01:07:01,980 --> 01:07:03,020 My brothers... 810 01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,490 My brothers, that concludes the fifth ballot. 811 01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:10,740 No candidate having achieved the necessary majority 812 01:07:11,570 --> 01:07:14,200 we shall resume voting tomorrow morning. 813 01:07:29,540 --> 01:07:31,280 Yes, Ray? 814 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,010 The incident this morning, Your Eminence. 815 01:07:34,010 --> 01:07:35,840 I have more information if... 816 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,010 No, I, too, must be shielded from any knowledge which could 817 01:07:39,010 --> 01:07:42,450 act as an interference in the process of this conclave. 818 01:07:42,450 --> 01:07:44,690 Of course, Your Eminence. 819 01:07:44,690 --> 01:07:47,190 - Anything else? - Uh... 820 01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:49,490 Oh. Cardinal Benitez. 821 01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:51,030 - His health problems. - Mm-hmm. 822 01:07:51,030 --> 01:07:53,030 He was issued a round-trip ticket to Geneva, 823 01:07:53,030 --> 01:07:56,690 paid for by the pope's own account. 824 01:07:56,690 --> 01:07:58,870 I checked his visa application. 825 01:07:58,870 --> 01:08:02,240 The purpose for travel was given as "medical treatment." 826 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,140 Anyways, whatever it was, it can't have been serious. 827 01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:07,650 The ticket was canceled. He never went. 828 01:08:07,650 --> 01:08:09,940 All right. Thank you. 829 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,190 Forgive me, Your Eminence. 830 01:08:20,190 --> 01:08:23,420 I know you said we should forget about the matter 831 01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:26,030 - of the withdrawn report. - Yes. 832 01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:28,330 But I-I wondered, 833 01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:32,140 in light of Cardinal Tremblay's current position... 834 01:08:33,770 --> 01:08:35,870 ...I-I could see if I could find out... 835 01:08:35,870 --> 01:08:37,540 No, no, I'm not a witchfinder. 836 01:08:37,540 --> 01:08:40,040 It's not my job to go hunting for secrets 837 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,880 in my colleagues' pasts. 838 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,450 Forgive me. 839 01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:51,560 Please, no more investigations. 840 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,950 I... 841 01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:56,160 ...think we've heard enough secrets. 842 01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,930 Let God's will be done. 843 01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:05,600 Yes, of course. 844 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,470 Good night then, Your Eminence. 845 01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:31,730 Well, is this really necessary? 846 01:09:31,730 --> 01:09:35,460 I feel as if I'm at some American political convention. 847 01:09:35,470 --> 01:09:37,670 Well, it isn't going to take long. 848 01:09:37,670 --> 01:09:40,170 Our friend here doesn't have sufficient support 849 01:09:40,170 --> 01:09:41,940 amongst our colleagues to be elected pope. 850 01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:43,770 Well, it isn't over yet. 851 01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:46,380 Well, I'm afraid, as far as I'm concerned, it is. 852 01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:50,310 So, now the question arises: 853 01:09:50,310 --> 01:09:52,810 If I can't win, 854 01:09:52,810 --> 01:09:56,550 whom do I advise my supporters to vote for? 855 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,490 Thomas, I am no more an enthusiast 856 01:10:01,490 --> 01:10:03,930 for Tremblay than you are. 857 01:10:03,930 --> 01:10:05,830 But we have to face the fact that... 858 01:10:20,050 --> 01:10:22,380 We have to face the fact 859 01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:24,480 that he has demonstrated broad appeal. 860 01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:28,810 - Maybe he'll be a unifying force. - No, no. 861 01:10:28,820 --> 01:10:31,290 - What? - Is this what we're reduced to? 862 01:10:31,290 --> 01:10:34,890 Considering the least worst option? 863 01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,120 But the field has narrowed. 864 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,730 If we don't change our vote, we will be here for weeks. 865 01:10:39,730 --> 01:10:41,860 And that's exactly what Tedesco wants. 866 01:10:41,860 --> 01:10:44,530 We had a pope who was in the Hitler Youth 867 01:10:44,530 --> 01:10:45,830 and fought for the Nazis. 868 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:47,400 We had popes accused of colluding 869 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,470 with communists and fascists. 870 01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:51,540 We had popes who have ignored reports 871 01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:53,510 of most appalling sexual abuse of children! 872 01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:55,420 Shh. Okay, shush. 873 01:10:56,410 --> 01:10:58,080 We take the point. 874 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,180 The point is we will never find a candidate 875 01:11:01,180 --> 01:11:04,190 who doesn't have any kind of black mark against them. 876 01:11:04,190 --> 01:11:06,320 We're mortal men. 877 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,520 We serve an ideal. 878 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,020 We cannot always be ideal. 879 01:11:17,730 --> 01:11:19,240 Then we're agreed. 880 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,900 We urge all our supporters to back Tremblay. 881 01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:26,200 Good. 882 01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,420 The other night, you were kind enough 883 01:11:36,420 --> 01:11:39,520 to say that you had voted for me. 884 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,690 Now, I don't know if you've continued to do so, 885 01:11:41,690 --> 01:11:46,260 but if you have, then I must repeat my plea to you to stop. 886 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,230 Why? 887 01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:53,530 Well, firstly, I lack the spiritual depth to be pope. 888 01:11:53,540 --> 01:11:55,900 Secondly, I couldn't possibly win. 889 01:11:55,900 --> 01:11:58,970 A long, drawn-out conclave would be seen by the media 890 01:11:58,970 --> 01:12:01,980 as proof that the Church is in crisis. 891 01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:04,440 You have come to ask me to vote for Cardinal Tremblay? 892 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:07,910 Yes, I have and to urge your supporters to do the same. 893 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,810 Cardinal Tremblay already spoke to me about this. 894 01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:12,050 Oh, well, I'm sure he has. 895 01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:15,250 You want me to vote for a man you see as ambitious? 896 01:12:16,990 --> 01:12:20,320 I do not want to see Tedesco as pope. 897 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,900 He would take our Church back to-to an earlier era. 898 01:12:23,900 --> 01:12:26,240 I'm sorry, but I cannot vote for a man 899 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,410 unless I deem him the most worthy to be pope. 900 01:12:29,410 --> 01:12:32,610 And for me, that is not Tremblay. 901 01:12:32,610 --> 01:12:33,910 It's you. 902 01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:36,510 I don't want your vote! 903 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:39,780 Nevertheless, you have it. 904 01:13:12,010 --> 01:13:16,490 Sister Shanumi is on her way home to Nigeria. 905 01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:19,050 There was a flight to Lagos this evening, 906 01:13:19,050 --> 01:13:22,790 and I thought it was best for everyone if she was on it. 907 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:26,330 How did Sister Shanumi come to be in Rome? 908 01:13:26,330 --> 01:13:27,890 I received notification 909 01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,330 from the office of the Superioress General 910 01:13:30,330 --> 01:13:32,630 that she would be joining us. 911 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,800 The arrangement were made in Paris. 912 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,370 You should ask Rue de Bac, Your Eminence. 913 01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:38,040 I would except, of course, 914 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,180 I am sequestered for the duration of the conclave. 915 01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:43,240 Then you should ask them afterwards. 916 01:13:44,750 --> 01:13:48,080 Uh, the information is of value to me now. 917 01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:56,760 Sister Agnes, I know that you were close to the Holy Father. 918 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,830 When I tried to resign as dean, he wouldn't let me. 919 01:14:00,830 --> 01:14:05,700 I couldn't understand why at the time, but now I think I do. 920 01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:09,840 I think the Holy Father knew he was dying, 921 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,120 and for some reason, he wanted me to run this conclave. 922 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,650 Which is what I'm trying to do. 923 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:21,650 For him. 924 01:15:20,010 --> 01:15:23,110 I would like you to withdrawyour name from the next ballot. 925 01:15:24,620 --> 01:15:27,280 You are not the right man to be pope. 926 01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:29,350 Well, 40 of our colleagues 927 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,850 would disagree with you on that. 928 01:15:30,850 --> 01:15:33,120 That's because they don't know you as I do. 929 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:37,790 This is sad, Thomas. 930 01:15:37,790 --> 01:15:39,620 I shall pray for you. 931 01:15:39,620 --> 01:15:42,670 I know there was some kind of report into your activities. 932 01:15:42,670 --> 01:15:44,660 I know the Holy Father raised the matter with you 933 01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:46,160 hours before he died 934 01:15:46,170 --> 01:15:48,000 and that he dismissed you from all your posts, 935 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,100 and I know that somehow you discovered 936 01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:53,110 Adeyemi's surrender to temptation 30 years ago 937 01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:55,140 and that you arranged for the woman involved 938 01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,620 to be brought to Rome with the express intention 939 01:15:57,620 --> 01:16:00,650 of destroying Adeyemi's chances of becoming pope. 940 01:16:00,650 --> 01:16:02,050 I deny that accusation. 941 01:16:02,050 --> 01:16:04,120 Well, you deny asking our superioress 942 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,390 to transfer one of her sisters to Rome? 943 01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:08,890 No. I asked her. 944 01:16:08,890 --> 01:16:11,130 - But not on my own behalf. - Well, on whose behalf, then? 945 01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:12,860 The Holy Father's. 946 01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:15,030 Oh, you would libel the Holy Father in his own home? 947 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,070 It isn't libel. 948 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:18,900 It's the truth. 949 01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:21,330 The Holy Father gave me the name of a sister 950 01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:25,070 and asked me to make a private request to bring her to Rome. 951 01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:29,180 I have no idea why, and now you have chosen to... 952 01:16:32,620 --> 01:16:34,720 You should be careful, Thomas. 953 01:16:36,690 --> 01:16:40,680 Your own ambition has not gone unnoticed. 954 01:16:40,690 --> 01:16:44,860 This might be seen as a tactic to blacken the name of a rival. 955 01:16:44,860 --> 01:16:46,590 Well, that's a despicable accusation. 956 01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:48,660 Is it? 957 01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:51,030 I wonder... 958 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:54,670 if you really are so very reluctant 959 01:16:54,670 --> 01:16:57,300 to have the chalice passed to you. 960 01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:05,720 I shall pretend this conversation never took place. 961 01:17:10,620 --> 01:17:12,660 But it has taken place! 962 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,740 It's the report on the activities of Tremblay. 963 01:23:28,740 --> 01:23:31,270 It's an overwhelming prima facie case 964 01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:33,270 that he is guilty of simony, which of course 965 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:34,970 is an offense stipulated in the Holy Scriptures... 966 01:23:34,980 --> 01:23:37,010 I'm aware of what simony is. Thank you. 967 01:23:37,010 --> 01:23:38,780 He only obtained all those votes in the first ballot 968 01:23:38,780 --> 01:23:40,910 because he bought them. 969 01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:45,020 Cardenas, Diene, Figarella, Baptiste. 970 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:46,810 And all this in the last 12 months 971 01:23:46,810 --> 01:23:49,350 when he must have guessed the Holy Father's pontificate 972 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:50,850 was-was coming to an end. 973 01:23:50,850 --> 01:23:52,650 How do we know that this money wasn't used 974 01:23:52,650 --> 01:23:54,930 for completely legitimate purposes? 975 01:23:54,930 --> 01:23:57,390 Because I've seen no bank statements. 976 01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:59,930 Dear God. 977 01:23:59,930 --> 01:24:03,140 Seems the Holy Father was spying on all of us. 978 01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:06,500 He didn't trust anyone. 979 01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:09,570 Where did you get this? 980 01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:12,300 You broke the seals. 981 01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:13,780 I felt I didn't have a choice. 982 01:24:13,780 --> 01:24:15,810 I suspected Tremblay 983 01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:19,550 of bringing that poor woman from Africa to embarrass Adeyemi. 984 01:24:19,550 --> 01:24:22,110 You must continue with your candidacy, Aldo. 985 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,230 Put them back. 986 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:31,660 Put them back. 987 01:24:31,660 --> 01:24:33,530 Or burn them or... 988 01:24:33,530 --> 01:24:35,830 Just put them back. 989 01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:38,200 I could never become pope in these circumstances. 990 01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:40,570 A stolen document, the smearing of a brother cardinal? 991 01:24:40,570 --> 01:24:42,970 I'd be the Richard Nixon of popes. 992 01:24:42,980 --> 01:24:44,670 Then stay clear of this. Leave it to me. 993 01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:46,540 I'm willing to handle the consequences. 994 01:24:46,540 --> 01:24:49,140 You know who's gonna benefit most from this? 995 01:24:49,140 --> 01:24:51,080 Tedesco. 996 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,040 The whole basis of his candidacy 997 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,920 is that the Holy Father led the Church to disaster 998 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,250 by his attempts at reform. 999 01:24:58,250 --> 01:25:00,750 If you reveal this report, 1000 01:25:00,750 --> 01:25:03,420 it isn't Tremblay's reputation that's going to suffer. 1001 01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:05,720 It's the Church's. 1002 01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:08,990 Accusing the Curia of institutional corruption. 1003 01:25:08,990 --> 01:25:13,360 I thought we were here to serve God, not the Curia. 1004 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,110 Oh, don't be naive. 1005 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,540 Put them back. 1006 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,850 And have Tremblay as pope? 1007 01:25:25,850 --> 01:25:27,450 We've had worse. 1008 01:25:32,830 --> 01:25:34,260 What has he offered you? 1009 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,060 Secretary of state? 1010 01:25:43,970 --> 01:25:47,640 Five times I cast my vote for you, Aldo. 1011 01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:50,670 But I was wrong. 1012 01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:54,840 You lack the courage required to be pope. 1013 01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:14,330 I will do that for you, Your Eminence. 1014 01:26:14,330 --> 01:26:15,630 Oh. 1015 01:26:21,370 --> 01:26:23,840 How many copies do you require? 1016 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,670 Uh, 108. 1017 01:26:43,660 --> 01:26:47,700 You are responsible for this, I believe. 1018 01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:49,700 No, Eminence. You are. 1019 01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:55,100 This report is entirely mendacious! 1020 01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:58,130 It would never have seen the light of day if you had not 1021 01:26:58,140 --> 01:27:01,040 broken into the Holy Father's apartment to remove it! 1022 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,010 If the report is mendacious, then why did the Holy Father, 1023 01:27:04,010 --> 01:27:07,310 in his last official act as pope, ask you to resign? 1024 01:27:07,310 --> 01:27:09,290 He did no such thing. 1025 01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:11,490 As Monsignor Morales, who was at the meeting... 1026 01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:14,990 And yet Archbishop Wozniak insists the Holy Father... 1027 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,960 The Holy Father, may his name be numbered 1028 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,460 among the high priests, 1029 01:27:18,460 --> 01:27:22,060 was a sick man toward the end of his life, 1030 01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:26,300 as those of us who saw him regularly can attest. 1031 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,540 If I may join this amiable dialogue. 1032 01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:32,080 I want to remind you that 1033 01:27:32,090 --> 01:27:35,550 the names of eight cardinals have been obscured. 1034 01:27:36,410 --> 01:27:37,580 Blacked out! 1035 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,050 I assume the dean can tell us who they are? 1036 01:27:40,050 --> 01:27:41,680 Let them tell us themselves 1037 01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,100 here and now. 1038 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,140 Here and now! 1039 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,890 If Cardinal Tremblay requested their votes 1040 01:27:47,890 --> 01:27:49,300 in return for the money... 1041 01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:50,560 No, I won't do that. 1042 01:27:52,530 --> 01:27:55,590 Let each man examine his conscience as I have. 1043 01:27:57,370 --> 01:28:00,700 I have no desire to create bitterness in this conclave, 1044 01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:04,240 and I will be happy to stand down as dean. 1045 01:28:08,050 --> 01:28:11,910 You see? You see? 1046 01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:14,120 Eminenze! 1047 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,210 Eminenze! 1048 01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:20,260 Eminences. 1049 01:28:20,260 --> 01:28:23,620 Although we sisters are supposed to be invisible, 1050 01:28:23,630 --> 01:28:27,930 God has nevertheless given us eyes and ears. 1051 01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:29,970 I know what prompted the dean of the College 1052 01:28:29,970 --> 01:28:33,570 to enter the Holy Father's rooms. 1053 01:28:33,570 --> 01:28:35,980 He was concerned that the sister from my order 1054 01:28:35,980 --> 01:28:38,940 that made that regrettable scene 1055 01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:43,550 might have been brought to Rome with the deliberate intention 1056 01:28:43,550 --> 01:28:46,080 of embarrassing a member of this conclave. 1057 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,450 His suspicions were correct. 1058 01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:53,320 She was indeed here at the specific request 1059 01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,860 of Cardinal Tremblay. 1060 01:29:14,380 --> 01:29:16,750 My brothers, 1061 01:29:16,750 --> 01:29:18,910 it's true. 1062 01:29:18,910 --> 01:29:22,050 But the Holy Father asked me to. 1063 01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,420 I had no knowledge who this woman was, 1064 01:29:27,420 --> 01:29:28,990 I swear to you. 1065 01:29:33,870 --> 01:29:34,920 Judas. 1066 01:29:35,540 --> 01:29:36,710 Traitor. 1067 01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:10,360 Seems that we're running out of favorites. 1068 01:30:13,930 --> 01:30:15,730 You must take over the supervision 1069 01:30:15,730 --> 01:30:17,770 of this election, Aldo. 1070 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,210 Oh, no, thank you. 1071 01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:24,550 You are steering this conclave. 1072 01:30:26,090 --> 01:30:29,320 Exactly where, I do not know. 1073 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,350 But that firm hand of yours has its admirers. 1074 01:30:38,190 --> 01:30:41,700 Thomas, I've come to ask for your forgiveness. 1075 01:30:45,730 --> 01:30:48,270 I had the temerity 1076 01:30:48,270 --> 01:30:52,000 to tell you to examine your heart, 1077 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,750 when all the time, it was my own that... 1078 01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,080 It's shameful. 1079 01:31:04,050 --> 01:31:07,460 To be this age and still not know yourself. 1080 01:31:07,460 --> 01:31:10,630 Ambition, the moth of holiness. 1081 01:31:14,590 --> 01:31:15,930 I'm sorry. 1082 01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:24,810 So, perhaps it's time you decided upon a name. 1083 01:31:27,170 --> 01:31:29,710 As the next most senior member of this conclave, 1084 01:31:29,710 --> 01:31:31,220 it will fall to me to ask you 1085 01:31:31,220 --> 01:31:33,410 how you wish to be known as pope. 1086 01:31:35,820 --> 01:31:37,320 For better or for worse, 1087 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,630 it would seem that Tremblay is finished. 1088 01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:44,220 This is a contest between Tedesco and you. 1089 01:31:44,220 --> 01:31:46,500 You're the only one who can stop him now. 1090 01:31:54,110 --> 01:31:55,430 John. 1091 01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:58,940 I would choose John. 1092 01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:35,830 Everyone has been taken back 1093 01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:38,230 to the Casa Santa Marta, Your Eminence. 1094 01:34:38,230 --> 01:34:42,230 No one was seriously hurt. Some cuts, that's all. 1095 01:34:42,230 --> 01:34:44,630 Outside in the city, how bad is it? 1096 01:34:58,520 --> 01:34:59,960 Oh, dear God. 1097 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,120 At 11:20 this morning, 1098 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,830 a car bomb exploded in 1099 01:35:08,830 --> 01:35:11,430 the Piazza del Risorgimento. 1100 01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:15,170 Shortly afterwards, as people were fleeing the scene, 1101 01:35:15,170 --> 01:35:18,170 an individual with explosives strapped to his body 1102 01:35:18,170 --> 01:35:20,170 detonated himself. 1103 01:35:20,170 --> 01:35:22,100 There are reports of further attacks 1104 01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:25,180 in Leuven and Munich. 1105 01:35:25,180 --> 01:35:28,350 The current death toll stands... 1106 01:35:28,350 --> 01:35:29,650 at 52. 1107 01:35:31,180 --> 01:35:33,250 Hundreds have been injured. 1108 01:35:33,730 --> 01:35:34,740 Well then. 1109 01:35:35,150 --> 01:35:39,570 Here at last we see the result of the doctrine of relativism 1110 01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:43,240 so beloved by our liberal brothers! 1111 01:35:45,250 --> 01:35:49,630 A relativism that sees all faiths and passing fancies 1112 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,880 accorded equal weight. 1113 01:35:52,460 --> 01:35:54,250 So that now, when we look around us, we see the homeland 1114 01:35:54,250 --> 01:35:56,090 of the Holy Roman Catholic Church 1115 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,930 dotted with the mosques and minarets 1116 01:35:59,930 --> 01:36:01,140 of the prophet Muhammad! 1117 01:36:01,620 --> 01:36:03,020 - You should be ashamed. - Ashamed? 1118 01:36:03,020 --> 01:36:05,390 - Ashamed. - We should all be ashamed! 1119 01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:09,270 We tolerate Islam in our land, 1120 01:36:09,690 --> 01:36:11,230 but they revile us in theirs. 1121 01:36:11,230 --> 01:36:14,570 We nourish them in our homelands. 1122 01:36:15,530 --> 01:36:16,900 But they exterminate us. 1123 01:36:16,900 --> 01:36:20,070 How long will we persist in this weakness? 1124 01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:22,740 They are literally at our walls right now. 1125 01:36:22,740 --> 01:36:26,160 What we need now is a leader who understands 1126 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:30,040 that we are facing a true religious war. 1127 01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:31,710 Do not touch me! 1128 01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:35,210 Yes, a religious war. 1129 01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:38,260 We need a leader who will put a stop to the drift 1130 01:36:38,260 --> 01:36:41,260 that has gone on almost ceaselessly for the past fifty years. 1131 01:36:41,260 --> 01:36:43,550 How long will we have to persist in this weakness, 1132 01:36:43,550 --> 01:36:44,640 how long? 1133 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,680 We need a leader... 1134 01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:49,860 ...who fights these animals! 1135 01:36:55,140 --> 01:36:57,800 Is this the man you want to lead us? 1136 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,910 My brother cardinal. 1137 01:37:01,940 --> 01:37:03,550 My brother cardinal. 1138 01:37:09,980 --> 01:37:11,960 With respect... 1139 01:37:14,090 --> 01:37:16,130 ...what do you know about war? 1140 01:37:19,330 --> 01:37:22,160 I carried out my ministry in the Congo. 1141 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,170 In Baghdad, in Kabul. 1142 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,900 I've seen the lines of the dead and wounded, 1143 01:37:28,900 --> 01:37:31,140 Christian and Muslim. 1144 01:37:34,210 --> 01:37:37,750 When you say we have to fight, 1145 01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:39,810 what is it you think we're fighting? 1146 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,740 You think it's those deluded men 1147 01:37:42,750 --> 01:37:45,890 who have carried out these terrible acts today? 1148 01:37:47,050 --> 01:37:48,220 No, my brother. 1149 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,450 The thing you're fighting is here... 1150 01:37:52,660 --> 01:37:54,370 inside each and every one of us, 1151 01:37:55,130 --> 01:37:57,420 if we give in to hate now, 1152 01:37:59,170 --> 01:38:00,550 if we speak of "sides" 1153 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,630 instead of speaking for every man and woman. 1154 01:38:06,010 --> 01:38:08,100 This is my first time here, amongst you, 1155 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,430 and I suppose it will be my last. 1156 01:38:12,890 --> 01:38:15,270 Forgive me, but these last few days 1157 01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:18,070 we have shown ourselves to be small petty men, 1158 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,610 we have seemed concerned only with ourselves, 1159 01:38:24,150 --> 01:38:25,160 with Rome, 1160 01:38:25,610 --> 01:38:27,320 with these elections, with power. 1161 01:38:29,870 --> 01:38:31,700 But these things are not the Church. 1162 01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:35,460 The Church is not tradition. 1163 01:38:36,580 --> 01:38:38,250 The Church is not the past. 1164 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,300 The Church is what we do next. 1165 01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:18,520 We pray, 1166 01:40:18,770 --> 01:40:22,940 O Father, so that we may guide 1167 01:40:22,940 --> 01:40:26,480 and watch over Your Church. 1168 01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:28,320 Give to us, Your servants, 1169 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,070 the blessings of intelligence, truth and peace, 1170 01:40:32,530 --> 01:40:36,990 so that we may strive to know Your will, 1171 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,000 and serve You with total dedication. 1172 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,960 For Christ our Lord. 1173 01:40:46,230 --> 01:40:47,700 Amen. 1174 01:42:10,090 --> 01:42:12,130 Bellini. 1175 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,170 Benitez. 1176 01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,740 Lawrence. 1177 01:42:32,110 --> 01:42:33,840 Tedesco. 1178 01:42:36,270 --> 01:42:37,770 Lawrence. 1179 01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:41,890 Do you accept your canonical election as Supreme Pontiff? 1180 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:56,320 Do you accept your canonical election as Supreme Pontiff? 1181 01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:05,120 I accept. 1182 01:44:08,210 --> 01:44:10,380 And by what name do you wish to be called? 1183 01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:16,880 Innocent. 1184 01:44:50,150 --> 01:44:51,880 Monsignor. 1185 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,080 I'm sorry to interrupt. 1186 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:56,550 Ray. 1187 01:44:58,620 --> 01:45:00,960 I think you should gather up the cardinals' notes. 1188 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,620 The sooner we light the stove, 1189 01:45:02,630 --> 01:45:05,330 the sooner the world will know we have a new pope. 1190 01:45:07,660 --> 01:45:09,260 What is it? 1191 01:45:10,900 --> 01:45:12,760 It wasn't... 1192 01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,770 wasn't the outcome I expected. 1193 01:45:14,770 --> 01:45:16,940 No, but it's wonderful all the same. 1194 01:45:18,740 --> 01:45:20,310 If it's my position you're worried about, 1195 01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:23,910 I can reassure you I feel nothing but relief. 1196 01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:26,120 Our new Holy Father will make a much better pope 1197 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,180 than I would ever have done. 1198 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:36,990 I wonder if I could have a word in private. 1199 01:45:38,990 --> 01:45:41,660 I should have told you this morning when I found out, 1200 01:45:41,660 --> 01:45:43,970 but with everything that-- 1201 01:45:43,970 --> 01:45:46,140 and I didn't dream 1202 01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:48,060 that Cardinal Benitez would become... 1203 01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:50,810 Ray, please tell me what's troubling you. 1204 01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:55,470 I found out... 1205 01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:57,480 Switzerland. 1206 01:45:57,480 --> 01:45:59,680 Cardinal Benitez's trip to Switzerland. 1207 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,280 Switzerland. The-the hospital in Geneva, yes? 1208 01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:06,790 It wasn't a hospital. 1209 01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:08,630 It was a clinic. 1210 01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:12,860 A clinic for what? 1211 01:46:26,090 --> 01:46:28,220 Eminence, His Holiness won't get robed. 1212 01:46:28,220 --> 01:46:29,310 With permission. 1213 01:46:35,180 --> 01:46:37,820 - May I speak to you alone? - Of course. 1214 01:46:37,860 --> 01:46:39,230 Gentlemen, let's clear the room. 1215 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,400 I was waiting for you to come. 1216 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,300 You must tell me about this treatment 1217 01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:53,330 at the clinic in Geneva. 1218 01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:56,810 - Must I, Dean? - Yes, you must. 1219 01:46:56,810 --> 01:46:59,640 Within the hour, you'll be the most famous man in the world, 1220 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,540 so please tell me. 1221 01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:04,420 What is your situation? 1222 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,910 My situation, as you put it, 1223 01:47:08,910 --> 01:47:12,390 is the same as when I was ordained a priest. 1224 01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:14,520 And when I was made a cardinal. 1225 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,490 But the treatment in Geneva? 1226 01:47:16,490 --> 01:47:18,930 There was no treatment. 1227 01:47:18,930 --> 01:47:20,600 I considered it. 1228 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,890 I prayed for guidance and decided against it. 1229 01:47:22,900 --> 01:47:25,700 But what would it have been, this treatment? 1230 01:47:27,900 --> 01:47:31,580 It was called a laparoscopic hysterectomy. 1231 01:48:18,290 --> 01:48:20,250 You have to understand. 1232 01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:24,230 When I was a child, there was no way of knowing 1233 01:48:24,230 --> 01:48:29,130 my situation was more complicated. 1234 01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:34,300 And life in the seminary is, as you know, a very modest one. 1235 01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:39,940 The truth is, there simply was no reason to think 1236 01:48:39,940 --> 01:48:42,780 I was physically different from the other young men. 1237 01:48:43,940 --> 01:48:46,940 Then, in my late 30s, 1238 01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:50,820 I had a surgery to remove my appendix. 1239 01:48:52,150 --> 01:48:55,320 And that was when the doctors discovered 1240 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,650 that I had a uterus. 1241 01:48:57,650 --> 01:49:00,160 And ovaries. 1242 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,530 Some would say my chromosomes would define me 1243 01:49:03,530 --> 01:49:06,090 as being a woman. 1244 01:49:06,090 --> 01:49:09,970 And yet I'm also as you see me. 1245 01:49:21,010 --> 01:49:23,650 It was a very dark time for me. 1246 01:49:23,650 --> 01:49:25,820 I felt as if my entire life as a priest 1247 01:49:25,820 --> 01:49:29,650 had been lived in a state of sin. 1248 01:49:29,650 --> 01:49:33,160 Of course, I offered my resignation to the Holy Father. 1249 01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,730 I flew to Rome, and I told him everything. 1250 01:49:38,170 --> 01:49:39,500 He knew? 1251 01:49:40,670 --> 01:49:43,370 Yes. He knew. 1252 01:49:43,370 --> 01:49:46,000 And he thought it acceptable for you to continue 1253 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,370 as an ordained minister? 1254 01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:53,140 We considered surgery to remove the female parts of my body. 1255 01:49:53,140 --> 01:49:55,650 But the night before I was due to fly, 1256 01:49:55,650 --> 01:49:59,050 I realized I was mistaken. 1257 01:49:59,050 --> 01:50:01,420 I was who I had always been. 1258 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,890 It seemed to me more of a sin to change his handiwork 1259 01:50:06,890 --> 01:50:09,230 than to leave my body as it was. 1260 01:50:11,470 --> 01:50:14,530 So you are still, um... 1261 01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:19,910 I am what God made me. 1262 01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:24,240 And perhaps it is my difference that will make me more useful. 1263 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,450 I think again of your sermon. 1264 01:50:30,460 --> 01:50:33,620 I know what it is to exist 1265 01:50:33,620 --> 01:50:36,550 between the world's certainties.